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So what would the charge specs be also. With all of our battery powered needs from cars to phones, DIY is liberating and fun.
For technical advice, please email the question to tech batterystuff. Andy Thanks chaps, this is a very interesting site.
I found it trying to get some idea of how to prolong the use of sets of used ,half dead golf cart batteries on a stand alone 24 V solar system.
This is only a non essential system I play around with having nothing better to do but it still runs my fridge as a bonus!
Currently I have 3 strings 24 V connected in parallel. Current draw is 12 Amps max about 18 hours every 24 hours. Some cells discharge more than others on days with no sun ,it automatically disconnects when the Voltage gets to Now the question I wish answered: Shashank Sharma i have one circuit for mobile charger and one dynamo circuit both of them having different jumper wires can i connect them two the same battery of 12v and 7ah using their jumper cables.
Sunil Vijaya i wonder whether you can help me a solar power set up. Helen Hi We have 24 batteries 2 volt each just wondering I what sort of charger we would need to charge Thanks.
Two 12volt deep cycle batteries wired in parallel its now sping but still cold. Are my Batteries now crap or can they still be charged and if so do they need to be charged separately or can they be charged together and how?
SORRY for so many questions but im worried about them. Any help would be greatly appreciated! What a good site.!! You solved my problems.
However, I have two batteries wired in series with a blue seas system switch. My question is, can I wire this charger to maintain both batteries or only one?
Also, how should I wire it with the switch to get both if possible? Kaye So if I need to charge my discharged battery, what would be the ideal way to connect them?
In series or parallel? Does that sound right to you? Thanks for all the info in this article, by the way. Found the cart very slow up hills, decent on flat surface and very fast downhill.
I have several questions, please: Someone told us we could replace 2 of the 6v batts with 2 8v batts. I did this, but accidentally crossed up the cables when putting in the new 8v batts i.
Then I ran the charger overnight. Did I hose the batts in any way by connecting improperly? I tested the cart the next morn and it was terribly slow, so I checked the cables and found my error.
Again, we have nothing — slower than slow on flat surface, wont climb hills at all and wont move in Reverse.
Now they are saying it must have been a charging problem with mixed batt voltages and say we should replace all of the 6 6v batts with 5 8v batts and still use our 36v charger.
They said that by having 1 less batt and 4 more volts it would help the cart go faster up hills… Will this work? Is this worth the change? What Im most worried about is: Will the 36v charger fully charge the 5 8v batts?
Should we just stay with our 6 6v batts and be slow up the hills? Im novice at this golf cart maintenance thing and want to help my son.
Trapper i have 4 3. Gordon Thank you very much for being available to help those of us who are weekend techs with our toys.
My biggest question refers to trickle charging this set up. Since these are marine dual purpose batteries joined in parallel, I was wondering which Tender Junior charger I should use to keep them charged?
Thank you in advance for your expert advice, Gordon. Kenny Schwartz Ignore second comment. Kenny Schwartz I sent a question comment to you a couple minutes ago and believe I figured it out on my own just now.
That would essentially give me double the capacity without multiplying the voltage or amperage output from creating a bank while keeping them on the same charging system.
The system will also have a amp alternator for charging from the engine, and a DC distribution panel whose main breaker is amps. Gerard I have a 48v golf cart, consisting of 4 12v batteries.
I would like to hook up 12v accessories to it. Is there any problem with hooking the 12v accessories directly to 1 of the 4 batteries?
Is a voltage reducer necessary? Dwight Question, I have a bank of ah,48v 12v ah AGM -identical batteries why is it that I find that over a 3 day period one of the 4 batteries in series have less charge.
Jeremy Fear If one battery is draining faster than the others, when they are all in a series, then I woudl surmise that it is either older than the others, or it may have a cell that is not functioning correctly.
We always recommend using the same type, size, and age batteries when you ar tying them together in a system.
That goes for both parallel and series connections. Jonathan I am working on a backhoe with two 12volt batteries hooked in series to make 24volts. With engine idling one battery is charging at over What would cause this?
The battery that is charging at under 13volts is only Jeremy Fear It could be a variety of things, however, it sounds like either the batteries are mismatched, or one is failing and is pulling the other one down.
I have a stock of 12V and A batteries. So Which configuration series and parallel and effective voltage of batteries i need to properly charge batteries.
Jeremy Fear Series would be the correct configuration for the batteries, however without a controller it still will not work for you.
The controller keeps the solar panel from inputting too high of a voltage directly into the batteries, which would hurt them.
I would not use these panels on those batteries without a controller. The unfortunate part is that we do not have a controller that will operate on 60 V.
Jose I have two separate Ah gel batteries in a boat. One is for supporting the single engine on-board, and the second one for all the other on-board services.
The installation comprises a single negative cable large cross section: The battery charger outputs A negative lead is connected to the large negative cross section cable.
My question is the following: Basically I can reformulate the question in the following manner: If so would a minor distance 40 cm be a big deal considering that a cross section of 50 mm2 can cope with more than A of current at 12V?
Jeremy Fear Yes, it is always a good idea to have the negative and possive wires the same guage. While it may work out just fine, we always recommend using the same size and type.
Diane Thank you for this great blog. We just purchased 4 more to add to them, exactly the same batteries. The originals are almost new, too just spreading out paychecks!
Question is, how do we wire them in to add more amps but not add voltage? Jeremy Fear You would have to have the same amount of batteries to add to the system in this case 8 and then you would wire them in series to each other, and then the entire bank in parallel with the other bank.
Mark I have 6 12 volt batteries wired in parallel, trying to create a jump cart for diesel rigs like Peterbilts.
It will not jump start the trucks any ideas why and what I could do differently. The trucks are 12 volt systems. Jeremy Fear I would first check to see if those trucks are 24 volt.
A lot of the larger Diesels are 24 volt. I am planning to enhance the battery capacity. Simple way is to buy two more 12 40AH batteries.
I would like to know whether it would create any charging or capacity issues? I have a 12V W panel array. Jeremy Fear Yes, there could be charging issues with that setup.
The best way to do this would be to not have a single 12 volt 75 amp battery, but instead to have four 40amp, 12v batteries in a series parallel configuration.
Will this increase in the way the Ah capacity will? Jeremy Fear In a parallel circuit amperage is increased while voltage stays the same, so yes, amperage current will increase in parallel.
I have a W solar panel that is 36v and it outputs about 6amp. I could definitely use the energy so the batteries would never over charge.
Any pointers would be appreciated. Paul I am replacing battery packs in an emergency lighting unit. I am not sure if I should wire them in series, parallel or combination.
Jeremy Fear We recommend having a liscenced electrician instal the batteries. Eme Im working on an experiment for an art exhibition. Where i need to power a small 1.
Each lemon provides around 1volt and 0. To lower the amount of lemons that i would need to power the engine is there something to increase the amperage, a capacitor perhaps?
BatteryStuff Tech As amperage increases, the natural result will be a decline in voltage. BatteryStuff Tech The larger capacity battery will feed into the smaller capacity battery in an attempt to bring it up and equalize capacity.
Because it is impossible for the smaller battery to increase in capacity, you will see early failure on both batteries as one will be constantly draining and the other will be overcharged.
This happens automatically by simply connecting the batteries together. This unbalance can also happen when charging them together.
David McNamara I have six deep cycle batteries, a 3, watt inverter in my horse trailer. I have a watt refrigerator and 2 12 volt fans. How do I connect batteries to get the longest time out of them.
I have two 15 watt solar panels. BatteryStuff Tech What are the voltage of the batteries? And what is the input voltage rating on the inverter?
Emerson Is this ok? Plz get bck to me asap b4 itry tnx. Is this wise or would i get a better result just have each 12V bank with 5 batteries?
Shoumya Is there any way so that we can switch from one connection type to the other?? Like I will be connecting two 12V,6A batteries in parallel as power source for my robot..
Now if i want want to give a temporary boost.. BatteryStuff Tech If you have both a series connection and parallel at the same time, you will cause a short to occur.
You will need some pretty fancy wiring and switches to prevent both configurations from ever occurring simultaneously. Good luck with that. Jeswills I have VA inverter with 12v and 1 amp then 2 amp deep circle batteries connected parallel.
One is that the batteries were bit by the rain after i moved from my former apartment where a professional connected it for me.
Now i just want to connect it to my 12amp room socket, still parallel but i earlier put d charger clamp positive onto another battery and negative to another and it showed low battery at once after charging it for hours.
So now i put d clamp positive and negative to one battery in d bank. Do u think i might have done something wrong? BatteryStuff Tech Am I correct to assume you have three batteries connected in parallel?
One with AH, and two with AH each? Jordan Hey mate we are buying a bus and doing it up. Franky all this battery mumbo jumbo makes me want to go back to school.
We were thinking about having 6 deep cycle 12v batteries in the back of the bus to power a heap of equipment. I was wondering how we would go about bringing that to v and how would we charge all those batteries.
We thought that we might have something set up from the alternator but that many batteries to charge would take way too long. This plan will be happening towards the end of the year but we are just trying to figure out what we need and dont want to be screwed over by anyone.
The batteries can either be charged by 12 volt solar panels or an AC powered battery charger when the bus is parked. So if I add a separate second bank with the same configuration , is there a way to have the inverter-charger service both banks, using a manual switch or preferably some kind of automatic load-balancer?
Trying to avoid replacing the large and not-too-old investment in the existing batteries if at all possible. BatteryStuff Tech Inverters are designed to pull from a single source.
If you do put a switch, it will have to be one bank or the other. Wasim Sohail I have load of Watts for 8 Hours.
What capacity batteries required for longest life, and how should I arrange them. BatteryStuff Tech Increased capacity will only give you longer runtime.
As long as the voltage the pressure is within safe range, then I see no danger in your proposed setup. Paul Z Happy Ground Hog day! I live off the grid and have a 48V system consisting of 8 L16 AH batteries strung in series.
One of the batteries died the other day. Can I replace the one L16 with 2 cheapo 6V AH batteries in parallel, then connect them in series with the remaining 7?
But if they extend the life of the remaining 7, by a year or more, it will be well worth it. BatteryStuff Tech Replacing one battery will technically work, but like you said it will cause the rest of the batteries to forsake whatever natural lifespan they would have had.
All you are doing it postponing the inevitable. Someday you should replace all the batteries at the same time. Under such a series connection, the resultant voltage is measured by subtracting the lower voltage from the higher one.
And finally direction of current can be determined after we calculate the resulting voltage. Now, I wonder whether such a series connection is experienced in our real life, or such a series connection of sources can damage the device I mean negative terminal of one Battery is connected to negative of another battery OR the vice versa?
BatteryStuff Tech Series is a positive terminal connected to a negative terminal from another battery. But if the polarity is reversed on the second battery, therefore it would be the equivalent of connecting two positive terminals to each other.
Because it would be an incomplete battery bank, a system using batteries like this will experience problems. Tom C I have two 12 V batteries in my boat with a shorepower charger.
Recently both batteries were completely dead. I check shroepower and had V to the charger. Charger output was 6 V rather than 12 V.
Could this actually drain my 12 V batteries? BatteryStuff Tech Is the charger a 12 and 6 volt charger selectable with a switch? Bob I would like to know what it would take to run an average house in deep cycle batteries,inverter,and charging source.
BatteryStuff Tech Is amps the average draw about? For how long do you plan to run the house on batteries before needing to recharge them?
Is the amps taken from 12 volts DC? Or volts AC? Mick Very useful information. I have a question. Kelly how many car batteries do i need to run a house using KwH and what size of an invertor do i need?
BatteryStuff Tech Please do not use car batteries for a deep cycle application. KwH is a measure of energy, not power, so I need to know the time period associated with your number.
Either disconnect the batteries for charging, or buy another solar panel and wire it in series to create a 24 volt solar system. Kev Wren hi, I intend to bank two batteries in my rv in parrelel to increase stored ampage..
Brian Could the overheating battery on the new Boeing Dreamliner be a simple case of incorrect wiring configuration.
But I cant help but feel it could be over looked. Just my 2 cents. BatteryStuff Tech Incorrect or inadequate wiring and connections can result in overheating and in some cases, melting of adapters and terminals.
Is it possible to take two banks that are connected in series, and connect them to each other in parallel? Where would you connect the leads in that case?
BatteryStuff Tech Yes, what you suggested can also work to accomplish the same output. These are the posts that you should connect in parallel.
Gpeg Thanks for the help. BatteryStuff Tech Every post that is used in a parallel connection for example all of the positives connected to each other will all act as a single positive terminal.
Therefore, you can technically use any one of them as the entry point. The same can be done for the negative side. Gpeg Great, that makes it easier.
Can I hook the charger leads in the same way? Gpeg Hi, thanks again for all of your information. Obviously performance would suffer, but would range be increased?
Your thoughts would be very helpful. The total amount of potential power is the same. The motor will run slower at 60 volts. If the demand on the motor is constant, the lower available voltage will cause the motor to pull more amps in order to run properly.
Therefore, having more amp hours may not give you the impression of longer runtime if your pulling more amps at a time. Gpeg Hi, thank you again for all of your helpful information.
For instance, after my last run the battery pack tested at volts after sitting two hours. What inaccuracies will I get with the two hour test? Is it going to be a false high, or a false low reading?
Jeremy Fear I would be a false low, though 2 hours would be long enough to be accurate within half a volt.
Mark I have a light that runs off of a 12v car battery and draws 1 amp that I use for fishing. Could I hook two 6v lantern batteries in series to make a 12v system that would run the light?
And if so, any idea approximately how long I could run the light for? BatteryStuff Tech Two 6 volt batteries in series will work to power the light.
The length of time you can run the light depends entirely on the capacity amps rating of the 6v batteries. Sandy My wife and I are looking at building an off-grid house in the mountains solar, wind, and generator.
We were discussing our battery bank options with a friend, who recommended 24 2V batteries. Another friend recommended two banks of 8 6V batteries.
Which one sounds better? Kenny I am trying to figure out which was is better for running a popup camper the longest i know you cant be exact without knowing how much is running , by wiring 2 6 volt golf cart batteries together to make the 12 volts or 2 12 volt deep cell batteries for the more amps?
BatteryStuff Tech If your system is 12 volts, then I recommend the option with the highest capacity as you said, that would be the 2 12 volt deep cell batteries for the more amps.
After about 4 years one or more of the 6V batteries will come up with a bad cell. I understand that it is not practical to replace a singe battery, but it drives me crazy to replace the entire bank when some of the batteries appear to be just fine.
I am thinking of going to a single string of 12, 2V batteries this time. My thinking is that I will then be able to replace an individual 2V battery because nothing will be in parallel.
Does this make sense? Is this scenario possible? BatteryStuff Tech I fail to see how these questions are related to the article.
Please email us for such highly technical questions. If I hook up a 30amp stereo system across one of the 12 volt batteries, would it work? Would there be any negative electronic repercussions?
Is there a better way to do this? Thanks for any Help! BatteryStuff Tech That is not recommended. You will cause an imbalance in the battery bank. If the battery bank is being used to run the vehicle, and then you also try to use one battery isolated, it will not work.
Please consider a step down dc to dc converter as a solution to your problem. Daniel Ok i was just wonderin i have 4 12 volt amp batteris ran in parallel and in series so added up toghter it us 24 volt and amps right?
And i was just wondering if a stock alternator that is 12 volt would charge them and where would i hook it up.. BatteryStuff Tech Voltage and Capacity both increase, yes.
A 12 volt alternator will be able to charge the batteries if they are in a series configuration. Daniel Ok so it would charge them even if they are ran both in a series and parllel.
And yes that is the cold cranking amps not amp hours. BatteryStuff Tech Sorry, a missed word on my original comment. The 12 volt alternator will NOT be able to charge your battery system if you have the batteries connected in series.
But if all 4 were in parallel, then it is possible. BatteryStuff Tech Even though you have a parallel connection, because you have a series of 24 volts, the 12 volt alternator cannot fully charge the entire bank.
And we do not recommend connecting your alternator to a partial part of your battery bank, instead of the entire thing. Daniel Ok that sounds good but lets say i dont run it from my alternator but have them hooked up in a series and parellel could i use a battery bank charger to keep them charged.
BatteryStuff Tech Yes, if you find a multi-bank charger than can hook up to each battery in the system, it will work.
Four 12v outputs is what you should look for, but technically 2 will work if you connect each bank to a pair of batteries paralleled to each other.
This results in one battery being discharged more than the other, and imbalance will cause early failure in one or both batteries.
Richard Hodgson i want to charge a 18v Dc NiCd power drill battery using two 12v DC AH lead acid batteries connected in parallel and which are charged using 12v solar panels.
How can this be done. If I temporarily re-connect the two 12 volt batteries in series to get an output of 24v, is this too high a voltage to be connected direct to the 18v NiCd battery terminals to charge it satisfactorily.
Ibnu Mulkan i have a winston battery from china, in the brochure i found that the battery have operation voltage with charge is 4Volt and discharge is 2.
BatteryStuff Tech It sounds to me like your battery should read at least 4 volts and it will be considered fully charged.
But if your resting voltage reading is 2. You can wire 3 of these batteries in series to obtain 12 volts. I have two w panels for 24v and a MS 45w mppt charge controller which will work for charging 12, 24, 48v batteries.
The camper will be placed off grid in SoCal where the sun is good. What battery configuration will give me the best performance with these panels? Will be running rv fridge on and a few cfl lights, laptop, led tv, dvd player.
The trailer currently has two 6 volt batteries connected to a progressive dynamics controller that is more than adequate for the 12 volt system already on board when charged by shore power.
So the idea is to have a solar system set up as a separate solar generator an a small seperate trailer that I can plug the camper into since I will not have shore power.
Hoping to keep the v stuff working when needed and charge the on board 12v system. Also need to consider a PSW inverter.
Any ideas on this set up? BatteryStuff Tech Please use our solar calculator for your system. I also suggest finding the power ratings on all devices that will in the system fridge, lights, etc.
This should determine the size your battery bank should be, not how much solar you have. Matthew i have a boat with a two bank system.
BatteryStuff Tech The house bank is considerably larger capacity than the starting bank. Are you letting your charger go through a full charge cycle?
John I have an electric bike that has 3 12 volt 7 amp batteries and range is an issue. I want to buy 3 12 volt 12 amp batteries for a total of 6 in all, hook them up parallel to keep my 36 volt current.
Also how would it impact my amp rating? Your range will increase if your capacity increases. More Amp Hours will do this.
If you use 12 AH batteries instead of 7 AH batteries, then it will work. For any battery system, all batteries should be the same voltage and capacity.
Justin I want to hook up 6 12v batteries and make them come out 48v how do i do that. BatteryStuff Tech We recommend having an even and balanced battery bank.
Therefore, you should only use 4 of the batteries, or buy 2 more for 8 in total. Gpeg Hi, great service you are providing here.
I have an EV with a 72 volt system comprised of 6 12 volt AH deep cycle batteries wired in series. Is there any advantage to changing the wiring from series only to the combination you suggest?
What would my theoretical AH rating become? Thanks, and Happy New Year. BatteryStuff Tech If you are referring to connecting your batteries in parallel, then your battery system will be 12 volts with AH.
Here is my parts list: When the power goes out, I plug into the inverter and put the battery switch to on and I am up and running. I used the kill-a-watt meter to check all of my essential needs.
Sump pump w, refrig w, hot water baseboard heat w, small tv and satellite box w, internet modem and router 80w, 60w CFFL bulbs 13w each.
Before I see the volt meter on the inverter start to drop the inverter shuts off at When the Tahoe runs it charges the batteries and powers what I need.
I was able to turn the vehicle on and off every few hours so it did not have to run continiously. I am planning to add 3 more A 12v batteries to my setup for longer runtime.
This setup is quiet and when the Tahoe runs you cannot hear it in the house. If you want to see my setup, go to www. Sshresth01 Is it possible to connect Ah battery with 80 Ah battery in parallel both with 12 V?
However, the batteries are of different companies? Eb I have a single 12V powertron flooded battery on my sailboat connected to a 15W sunforce solar panel protected by a sunsaver 10 Ah 12volt controller.
This system powers an anchor light and bilge pump directly connected to the battery. It also serves to crank start a 9.
Here is m problem, after several weeks of use, and not being checked on …the anchor light goes out and when checked, the battery has less than 2 volts per the mulitmeter.
This is my second battery that this has happened with. BatteryStuff Tech Although the controller may be rated for up to 10 amps, the 15 watt solar panel will only charge at roughly 1 amp per hour of direct sunlight.
Maybe you need a larger solar panel? I converted my diesel vehicle from 24v to 12v but have been running through 12v starters because they are not powerful enough to start the engine.
I would like to install a 24v starter without having to replace all of the lights, accessories, and other components. Could I run two batteries in series to run the 24v starter while connecting the 12v lights and accessories to one of the batteries and using a battery isolator to charge both batteries from the 12v alternator?
BatteryStuff Tech Yes, your proposed setup will technically work. BatteryStuff Tech If you need 1 hour of 2 KW AC power, you will need a battery system with 12v and AH 5 of the 70 amp batteries in parallel and 2 of the Watt solar panels in parallel with 8 hours of sunlight to recharge.
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